Hi all I am sorry if this has being asked before but I was wondering why Hide Tide and Green Grass and Their satanic Majesties mono lps are light blue and silver decca labels and not the red and silver labels. Many Thanks Paul
TX Series was created by DECCA expecially for the RS and had labels of different colours. As far as I know, Great Britain is the only place where this happened: in the other Countries these records were issued with the usual labels (for instance, in the US ABKCO adopted the NP - Nanker Phelge - prefix for these, but kept the red/blue labels). One nice exception is Italy. Since its records were pressed in GB and shipped to Italy, these 'Big Hits' record arrived with azure custom made label for Italy. The first A-side/B-side set was wrong, the second is correct. Have a nice week-end, Luca
G'd evening folks. About the blue mono and green stereo labels on Rolling Stones LP's.... I am glad to finally be able to present you the reason. The message that I am re-posting here now has been in my mail inbox for some time. I have just not got around to do anything about it as it landed during the summer of 2013. Summer time is "Stones collecting switched off" for me. Now it is November and the Stones collecting switch has just been turned on again
Well, the confirmation of blue / green labels has been given to me by Amalias Husband who worked at the Decca Pressing Plant in the 60's ;D
Here we go, please fasten yar seat belts:
"In the 1960s, you may or may not know that Decca was world renowned for ‘classical music pressings’. And especially for their ‘stereo’ pressings of this genre. Even by the late 1960s Decca saved all its best vinyl for Classical music pressings, as the sound had to be just right. You can imagine with quiet violins and pianos etc – it was important as much of classical music is very quiet. Sadly the ‘pop’ stuff wasnt worried about, only good (but not perfect) vinyl was used, as to the old execs at Decca it was still regarded as ‘noise’. Of course dont get my wrong, the vinyl was still of a very high quality, but the ‘virgin’ vinyl was strictly reserved for classical music only.
Now if you are into classical music (I am not) you will know Decca’s are generally the most sought after. And indeed all Classical music Stereos throughout the 1960s were specially marked as a 1st Pressing. On each label in the original run – in the top left corner it has printed ‘ORIGINAL RECORDING BY’. And this is especially important. It denoted the ‘virgin vinyl’ and direct recordings from the master tape. Later issues (even a year later) only have ‘Made In England’ in the top left corner, denoting a later pressing.
Not unfortunately the Rolling Stones (and other pop records of the time) was a complete mess. Whereas Classical music stereos had high demand even in the early 1960s, ‘pop’ records had almost no demand at all. I cant really remember – but I do know the early Stones LPs in Stereo were hashed up in an afternoon. You have to remember that most of the bigger pop bands (like John Mayall and Them) werent even issued in Stereo – as Deccas stance at the time was strictly ‘pop records are good enough in Mono only’. And it wasnt until 1967 that they bothers to release Stereos for ‘pop bands’.
However the Stones were so big, and because the Beatles has Stereo ‘options’ on their LPs – Decca was forced into issuing their LPs in Stereo aswell. Now I wasnt involved, but I distinctly remember the Stereos for the first 2 LPs were made very quickly indeed. Probably by 1 engineer in a few hours. They may not have been Stereo at all. Certainly no ‘virgin vinyl’ was involved, and they were just got out quickly to meet demand.
However – in 1966 Decca introduced the ‘luxury’ line for their ‘pop’ LPs – the ‘TXS’ series. They cost a bit more than the ‘SKL’ series – usually having better and more interesting cover designs, and a more interesting label. Well it was green anyway in Stereo? Is that more interesting than Blue? I dont know – but that is what it was designed for.
And here is one major point in this series. One LP I do know about was ‘Satanic Majesties’ on the TXS series. This one was pressed like a classical music LP. ‘Virgin vinyl’ was used – mainly because this LP was full of effects and detail. Thus it was thought important. And on this LP you have got the label order bang on. But what you fail to note – like the classical music LPs I mentioned before, that 1st Stereo Pressings always had ‘ORIGINAL RECORDING BY’ in the top left corner of the labels on the Stereos! This denoted the recordings were original, on virgin vinyl and direct from the master tape. "
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So, there we have it folks:
Red and blue standard rubbish pop music LP's = reused raw material vinyl Blue and Green labels = virgin new fresch raw material vinyl
Some comments to this. This is things that took place 45 years ago at Decca we are talking about here.
Still I need to comment and maybe do a couple of corrections: Naturally there are two Stones LP's that has the TSL / TSX numbers: Big Hits and Satanic
Secondly, the "ORIGINAL RECORDING" that is supposed to be on very first pressings. I do not think that this was used on pop music records / labels. I have at least never seen this text on pop LP's but I have seen it on classical records.