The change from nonboxed to boxed logos took place in September of 1966. The last 7" to be printed with nonboxed logo is Paint It, Black The first 7" that got the new boxed logo is Have You Seen Your Mother. All "pre-Mother" singes are also found with boxed logos
Post by janrichards on Dec 23, 2010 22:22:32 GMT 1
Original singles from 1963 and 1964 has the text "Recording First Published 1963" or "1964" depending on the year of issue. If the single is pressed the same year as it was issued, then it has the RFP text.
This means that if you have a Come On with "Recording First Published 1963", then it is pressed 1963. If your Come On has P1963 and still has the nonboxed logo, then it is pressed in between 1964 and 1966. Later versions of Come On is the with boxed logo, pressed end of 1966 and up to 1981
Lets break this number down into bits and pieces: XDRF stands for: X = an indipendent production. This means that the master tape was not recorded in Deccas recording studios and that the master was mixed by a person not employed by Decca. DR = Laquer Disc was cut at Deccas facilities at West Hampstead in North West London F = Code that identifies the recording to be a 45rpm. This letter was dropped in 1968
30937 is the number of the Master Tape.
T1 = This is the first mix used for creating pressing plates. If it for some reason was decided to remix the track and use the new mix for pressing singles, then this code was changed into T2.
1C = The first acetate / Master Laquer used for making the pressing plates and the person who cut the laquer is Mr C = Trevor Fletcher
Post by Hillside Blues on Dec 23, 2010 22:35:49 GMT 1
The labels also went through some slight changes in the early seventies.
I've been wandering what's the rarest Decca 7". Little Queenie, Street Fighting Man and Heart Of Stone came first to mind, all exports. And of course the incredible rare Stu-Ball, although it's not technicly a stones single. But the holy grail must of course be the UK Poison Ivy 7"
Post by janrichards on Dec 23, 2010 23:47:21 GMT 1
Here is a list of Decca singles issued in UK:
Domestic UK singles 07.06.1963 - F11675 - Come On / I Want To Be Loved 28.08.1963 - F11742 - Poison Ivy / Fortune Teller 01.11.1963 – F11764 – I Wanna Be Your Man / Stones or Stoned 21.02.1964 – F11845 – Not Fade Away / Little By Little 26.06.1964 – F11934 – It’s All Over Now / Good Times Bad Times 13.11.1964 – F12014 – Little Red Rooster / Off The Hook 26.02.1965 – F12104 – The Last Time / Play With Fire 20.08.1965 – F12220 – Satisfaction / The Spider And The Fly 22.10.1965 – F12263 – Get Off Of My Cloud / The Singer Not The Song 04.02.1966 – F12331 – 19th Nervous Breakdown / As Tears Go By 13.05.1966 – F12395 – Paint It, Black / Long Long While 23.09.1966 – F12497 – Have You Seen Your Mother / Who’s Driving Your Plane 13.01.1967 – F12546 – Let’s Spend The Night Together / Ruby Tuesday 18.08.1967 – F12654 - We Love You / Dandelion 24.05.1968 – F12782 – Jumping Jack Flash / Child Of The Moon 04.07.1969 – F12952 – Honly Tonk Women 20.07.1971 – F13203 - Street Fighting Man / Surprise Surprise 29.04.1973 – F13404 – Sad Day / You Can’t Always Get What You Want 00.05.1974 – F13517 – It’s All Over Now / Paint It, Black 23.05.1975 – F13584 – I Don’t Know Why / Try A Little Harder 05.09.1975 – F13597 – Out Of Time / Jiving Sister Fanny 15.04.1976 – F13635 – Honky Tonk Women / Sympathy For The Devil 00.00.197X – F22265 – Get Off Of MY Cloud / I’m Free 00.00.197X – F22706 – 2000 Light Years From Home / She’s A Rainbow 00.00.197X – F22825 – Street Fighting Man / No Expectations
Export only singles 00.00.1964 – F44423 – Time Is On My Side / Congratulations 00.00.1964 – F44429 – Tell Me / Honest I Do 00.06.1965 – F22180 – Heart Of Stone / What A Shame 00.10.1965 – F22265 - Get Off Of MY Cloud / I’m Free 00.12.1970 – F13126 – Little Queenie / Love In Vain 00.06.1971 – F13195 – Street Fighting Man / Surprise Surprise / Everybody Needs..
Export only singles, the AT series, black nonboxed label 00.00.1964 – AT15032 – Tell Me / Come On 00.00.1964 – AT15040 – Little Red Roostre / Off The Hook
I think that this one is interesting first for the mistaken credits but mainly to follow the discussion, because it's not a XDRF one, the matrix here is ZXDR - 57698 - T1 - 1C ZXDR - 57699 - T1 - 1C for the B-side.
So it start with a Z instead of the X, The label is a boxed DECCA one but ABKCO appear in the same time above the F 13584. Maybe because it was issued in 1975 and ABKCO owned the rights for the Metamorphosis tracks
Post by janrichards on Dec 26, 2010 15:20:49 GMT 1
And yes Tim is correct, the Z stands for a Stereo recording. So I can add to my previous list:
Z = Stereo recording E = Electronically reprocessed for stereo X = an indipendent production. This means that the master tape was not recorded in Deccas recording studios and that the master was mixed by a person not employed by Decca. DR = Laquer Disc was cut at Deccas facilities at West Hampstead in North West London F = Code that identifies the recording to be a 45rpm. This letter was dropped in 1968
Very interesting discussion. Remember the Honky Tonk WomAn missprint. I have a copy of that one and also of the I Don't Know Why (Jagger/Richards/Taylor) missprint. If you need pictures I can make some (ooops! you have a picture of the I Don't Know Why one.... ).
Jan or Tim did you ever noticed that the number of the Matrix is also different on the DECCA F 13584 with the miscredits. It's ZXDR 57690 instead of ZXDR 57698 (see my pic above) So one mistake for the credits and another one for the matrix ;D And thanks for the "Z" explanation...
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