Post by janrichards on Feb 23, 2010 18:33:18 GMT 1
This is an interesting observation. Testpressings were for sure done with the same tools as the normal production so your test pressing is pre summer of -68. But why it was taken into production a few years later is hard to tell. I checked my stereo Aftermats and I have:
non boxed side 1: 1W, mother G2B, stamper UI - Side 2: 1W, mother 1, stamper A non grooved label
non boxed side 1: 1W, mother 2B, stamper H - side 2: 4W, mother 1, stamper H, non grooved label
boxed Side 1: 5W, mother 1, stamper HK - side 2: 5W, Mother 1B, stamper AU
boxed side 1: 5W, mother 2B, stamper CB - side2: 5W, mother 1B, stamper BA
Well, hard to tell, but I would have two suggestions. 1. We have just for some reason not yet found any -5W non boxed LP's even though they may exist 2. They did not take the mother into use but a few years after the first ones were made. They just put them into storage for some reason
Can you do another check. What is the Mother number at 9 a clock and what is the stamper letter at 3 a clock?
There may also be an explanation that the stampers used for this testpressing you have, did not pass the quality check and the next time they took new mother and stampers from matrix no 5 was in the mid 70's. Then the mother number would be different on the production boxed LP's than on your test pressing. This may be an explanation close to what actually happened. But check the other markings in addition to the matrix number
Post by janrichards on Feb 23, 2010 20:40:33 GMT 1
Ok, so then the test pressing is done with the very first plates taken from matrix 5W
It will be hard to tell what then actually has happened. The next thing to do is then to keep on looking for 5W matrix with the same mother and stamper as on your test pressing. I would be pretty sure that we will not find any production LP's with the identical numbers. So this may have been a pressing that for some reason was rejected. Then at a later stage, like mid 70's they took new mothers from the matrix with new numbers and they got cleared from quality controll and went into production.
I have contact with a person that actually made the pressing plates and checked the test pressings at Decca, I will drop him a mail and see what his idea would be about this. He has actually told me that they used to get loads of testpressings from the pressingplant, like for every stampre they did a test. They got so many of them and did not know what to doo with them, so they went into the trash can........
Post by Stone Relics on Feb 23, 2010 21:45:52 GMT 1
Here is a 5W / 5W I have in my collection...unboxed, ungrooved. Likely that test press is from the later years of unboxed stereos...I think you can read the matrices, but stampers are VERY difficult to make out. Side 1 is J7, side 2 is 1D. Hope this helps...
Following on from my post about a year ago re:-5w,I now have an anomoly at the other extreme. Just scored a boxed white label (export??) copy with-1w matrices both sides!! just when I thought I had seen it all then this pressing comes along from the early seventies(?) using the first issue stampers...what were Decca up to- all over the place... also, not unrelated,got a sample copy of Its all over now with p date instead of recording first published (quite rare) BUT... 1 B stamped both sides-again later labels first stampers/matrices what gives? any ideas,thoughts ??
Both with the same laminated sleeve but with some slightly difference either on the front and the back of the sleeves. It's more obvious on the label. The printing of the front sleeve used for the stereo version is also a bit darkest.
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Post by steffiestones on Mar 28, 2011 18:17:18 GMT 1
RCA acetate of aftermath. Aftermath was also the first Rolling Stones album to be recorded entirely in the United States, at the legendary RCA Studios in Hollywood, California at 6363 Sunset Boulevard, and the first album the band released in stereo.