Post by janrichards on Aug 16, 2010 21:14:41 GMT 1
Thanks Dartford. I have today added the picture to my page. This was a new find that I did not know about. This is the way to go, if you find versions on your LP's that I have not documented on my page, please tell me about it.
Post by janrichards on Sept 29, 2010 8:02:37 GMT 1
Rollingtom wrote in another tread:
"Your test page looks very good Janne - agree with Rik about the black one ; ) I got two versions of the "missing MONO LK4605" cover: one flipback and one none flipback - just for the record. Keep on your good work - I know that you must spend a lot of time doing this !! "
This is actually a very important find!!!
I would very much like to have a picture of this Tommy.
This new find leads me into thinking about the production of the covers: Did they use two suppliers on the same time? Did they send the same sample model with the MONO missing to both suppliers and both of them printed covers missing the MONO? One supplier made the nonflip and the other made the flip version?
Was it the same supplier who made both nonflip and flip covers on the same time? Was there two machines folding the covers and gluing them together, one did the nonflip and the other machine did the flip version?
Or was there people who manually did the folding and gluing of the covers and did the way of folding differ from person to person?
Yea, I know, I'm out trainspotting again ;D ;D ;D ;D But it's fun isn't it
Hey Jan. Got a question for you. On the bay, theré s a lk 4605 for sale with matrixnr. 1A-4A, with on the top of the label "made in england by the decca rec. comp". I have the same 1A-4A with on top of the label " made in england"on both sides. I know that 1A-4A exist with " made in england by ....." on side 1, and "made in england" on side 2 Is it possible that it exist with " made in england by the ....." on both sides?
Post by janrichards on Oct 13, 2010 21:04:18 GMT 1
Kris, I think it is very possible that it exist with the combination that you describe. Decca did not pay any attention to how the labels looked like when they put them into the pressing machines. The only thing they looked at was that the label with side 1 was on top and a label with side 2 under the vinyl when pressing the LP. There are lots of combinations existing as they pressed the LP in very large quantities in 1964. I do not have this combination in my own collection, but I'd say it does exist.
Item description: THE ROLLING STONES - The Rolling Stones Very Rare 1964 UK DECCA label 12-track vinyl LP Housed in a superb orginal picture sleeve with Mono LK 4605 on the back
Tracklisting / Additional Info: 1. Route 66 (troup) 2. I just wanna make love to you (dixon) 3. Honest i do (hurran, calvert) 4. Mona (mcdaniels) 5. Now i've got a witness (like uncle gene & uncle phil) (phelge) 6. Little by little (phelge, spector) 7. i'm king bee (moore) 8. Carol (berry) 9. Tell me (your coming back) (Jagger richard) 10. can i get a witness (e. and b. holland, bozier) 11. You can make it you try (jarrett) 12. Walking the dog (thomas)
Jene Pitney play piano, and phil spector maracas on little by little, ian stewart play piano on tell me, cant i get a witness and organ on now i got a witness, you can make it.
THE VINYL LOOKS ALMOST UNPLAYED AND THE SLEEVE HAS SOME MINOR SUFFING ON THE SPINE
Format: Vinyl Record Label: Decca Catalogue No: LK.4605 (upside down) N XARL.6271 matrix numbers Side 1 = XARL - 6271 - 1A SIDE 2 = XARL 6272 - 3A Country of Origin: UK
Woow, the reason for the asking price may be that Gene Pitney plays the piano.... or then, maybe not? Well....there has to be some reason, or?
It's been a few years since I got a new label version on the first LP. I was almost thinking that we got all versions covered already, but.... ya never know what's around the corner
The interesting detail with this one is that it has almost identical label with the very last 1969 labels, but it is used on a grooved pressing! This confirms that labels with tax codes missing was used already in the beginning of 1968 och LK4605
Another good thing is that the LP is inside a cover with the blue DECCA logo on the front of the cover. Then we got a pressing year for that Blue Logo version as well = 1968
Post by janrichards on Mar 13, 2011 17:27:28 GMT 1
Ok, the bluegreen DECCA logo on the cover of LK4605.
The copy mentioned in the post just above here, I bought it, should be here any day now. Feels good to be able to add the bluegreen logo to the collection.
The sleeve that I am now getting is a non flipback version. The label inside is missing the K/T tax code and the publising year is at the bottom of the label but still on a grooved pressing. This indicates a 1967 pressing. This means that we now can date the bluegreen logo to 1967
BUT, I got a mail the other day from another Finnish collector who has a bluegreen logo on a FLIPBACK sleeve!! The LP insidie is a bad condition nongrooved so there has clearly a swap been taking place.
But still, we have a confirmed existance of: Bluegreen logo on a flipback sleeve Bluegreen logo on a non flipback sleeve
I'd say now that we must have two sets of sleeves made. The flip version has to be before summer of 1965 as that is the approximate time when the flip covers were dropped from production. The other one is made 1967 or early 1968, this based on the label inside.